{"id":2618,"date":"2007-03-02T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2007-03-02T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/banneroftruth.co\/us\/resources\/articles\/2007\/a-brief-interview-with-maurice-roberts-on-the-new-perspective"},"modified":"2015-08-14T15:58:45","modified_gmt":"2015-08-14T14:58:45","slug":"a-brief-interview-with-maurice-roberts-on-the-new-perspective","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/banneroftruth.org\/uk\/resources\/articles\/2007\/a-brief-interview-with-maurice-roberts-on-the-new-perspective\/","title":{"rendered":"A Brief Interview with Maurice Roberts on the New Perspective"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Question<\/strong>: <em>Is it any surprise to you that there is currently controversy in Reformed and Evangelical circles over the doctrine of justification, or did you see it coming?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Rev. Roberts<\/strong>: I was rather slow in realizing the danger, probably because I ministered in a somewhat remote situation. So I did not see it coming, alas. I am deeply amazed that any evangelical could allow this doctrine to slip. I ascribe it to small conviction of sin in these scholars.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question<\/strong>: <em>Is there something fundamentally at stake in the &#8220;New Perspective on Paul?&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Rev. Roberts<\/strong>: It is theological revisionism and shows fundamental departure from orthodoxy at crucial points: a low view of sin; a concession to fallen man&#8217;s instinct to save himself; an overshadowing of the forensic by the federal; eradication of imputation; demeaning of the significance of Christ&#8217;s propitiatory work.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question<\/strong>: <em>Some have claimed that the Reformed doctrine of justification makes people careless in life. How would you respond to this charge?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Rev. Roberts<\/strong>: There are three aspects to justification. A man is justified (1) meritoriously, by Christ&#8217;s blood; (2) instrumentally, by faith alone; (3) declaratively, by good works. Though good works do not enter into our justification, they are the necessary evidence of being in a justified state.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question<\/strong>: <em>What books have helped you better understand and cherish the doctrine of justification more fully?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Rev. Roberts<\/strong>: Especially John Calvin, the <em>Westminster Confession of Faith<\/em>, John Owen, Thomas Goodwin, James Buchanan, Jonathan Edwards, George Whitefield, and Philip Eveson&#8217;s <em>The Great Exchange<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question<\/strong>: <em>What place should the doctrine of justification have in preaching?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Rev. Roberts<\/strong>: It must control all our presentation of the gospel, both implicitly and explicitly, so that the sinner is thrown entirely on Christ&#8217;s finished work for salvation from sin and always driven out of reliance on himself or on the church.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question<\/strong>: <em>How would you counsel a believer who wishes he would experience the riches of justification more fully?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Rev. Roberts<\/strong>: Dwell more on what Christ has done than on our own poor faith. &#8220;If the Son shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed&#8221; (John 8:36). The promises of Christ are more unshakable than the very universe. God cannot lie.<\/p>\n<p>Taken from the pages of the Grand Rapids <em>Heritage Books<\/em>.<\/p>\n<div class=\"notes\">\n<h3>Notes<\/h3>\n<p>Recommended Trust publications on the New Perspective:<\/p>\n<div class=\"woocommerce \"><ul class=\"products columns-3\">\n\n\n<div class=\"product-box\">\n  <a href=\"https:\/\/banneroftruth.org\/uk\/store\/theology\/the-gospel-of-free-acceptance-in-christ\/\" class=\"woocommerce-LoopProduct-link woocommerce-loop-product__link\">  <a href=\"https:\/\/banneroftruth.org\/uk\/store\/theology\/the-gospel-of-free-acceptance-in-christ\/\" >\n    <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"324\" height=\"510\" src=\"https:\/\/banneroftruth.org\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2022\/01\/9781800401358-324x510.jpg\" class=\"attachment-woocommerce_thumbnail size-woocommerce_thumbnail\" alt=\"The Gospel of Free Acceptance in Christ\" srcset=\"https:\/\/banneroftruth.org\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2022\/01\/9781800401358-324x510.jpg 324w, https:\/\/banneroftruth.org\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2022\/01\/9781800401358-191x300.jpg 191w, https:\/\/banneroftruth.org\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2022\/01\/9781800401358-650x1024.jpg 650w, https:\/\/banneroftruth.org\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2022\/01\/9781800401358-95x150.jpg 95w, https:\/\/banneroftruth.org\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2022\/01\/9781800401358-768x1209.jpg 768w, https:\/\/banneroftruth.org\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2022\/01\/9781800401358-975x1536.jpg 975w, https:\/\/banneroftruth.org\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2022\/01\/9781800401358-1301x2048.jpg 1301w, https:\/\/banneroftruth.org\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2022\/01\/9781800401358-150x236.jpg 150w, https:\/\/banneroftruth.org\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2022\/01\/9781800401358-760x1197.jpg 760w, https:\/\/banneroftruth.org\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2022\/01\/9781800401358-416x655.jpg 416w, https:\/\/banneroftruth.org\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2022\/01\/9781800401358-scaled.jpg 1626w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 324px) 100vw, 324px\" \/>\t       <\/a>\n\n\n  <div class=\"main-info\">\n \u00a0 \u00a0<h2 class=\"title\"><a href=\"https:\/\/banneroftruth.org\/uk\/store\/theology\/the-gospel-of-free-acceptance-in-christ\/\" >The Gospel of Free Acceptance in Christ<\/a><\/h2>\n\n    \n      <h3 class=\"subtitle\">An Assessment of the Reformation and the New Perspective on Paul<\/h3>\n\n    \n      <p class=\"author\"><span>by<\/span>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/banneroftruth.org\/uk\/store\/theauthor\/venema-cornelis-p\">Cornelis P. 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