{"id":1794,"date":"2003-04-24T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2003-04-24T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/banneroftruth.co\/us\/resources\/articles\/2003\/no-good-news-a-reply-to-alistair-mcgrath"},"modified":"2003-04-24T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2003-04-24T00:00:00","slug":"no-good-news-a-reply-to-alistair-mcgrath","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/banneroftruth.org\/us\/resources\/articles\/2003\/no-good-news-a-reply-to-alistair-mcgrath\/","title":{"rendered":"No Good News: A reply to Alistair McGrath"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <P><strong>There is no reason here to be encouraged. Some will reply that         they will be delighted to have an Archbishop who asserts central credal         doctrines. This delight in itself is alarming<\/strong>       <\/p>\n<p> by Garry Williams, Tutor in Church History and Doctrine, Oak Hill College,        London      <\/p>\n<p> Alister McGrath tells readers of the Church of England Newspaper (no.         5627)        that he is positive about Rowans appointment as archbishop of Canterbury.                 Specifically, he is encouraged by the fact that Rowan Williams believes        that the role of a bishop is to be a focus of unity, not to push his own        personal agenda, and that he holds his views on the question of        homosexuality on the basis of Scripture rather than cultural pressure.         As        a fellow Evangelical it is with reluctance that I write to disagree with        McGrath, but I fear that his reasoning is mistaken. More importantly,         his        conclusions will be too influential among Evangelicals to allow them to        pass unchallenged.       <\/p>\n<p>McGrath adduces evidence mainly from Authority and the Bishop in the        Church, a piece written by Williams in 1982 about the function of bishops.                 Williams, he tells us, will be safe as archbishop because he sees bishops        as the focus of unity, not as agents of discord. There are two problems        with this claim. First, it fails to take account of the available        evidence. McGrath covers what Williams has written, but he ignores what        we know of the years since 1982 during which he has actually held the        office of bishop and archbishop. It was after writing the 1982 piece,        having become a bishop, that Williams voted against the Lambeth resolution,        knowingly ordained a practising homosexual, and gave the interview in         which        he admitted and defended his action. McGrath may conclude from his        writings of twenty years ago that Williams will distinguish his public         and        private opinions, but his public words and actions since then have been        alarmingly consistent with his private opinions.       <\/p>\n<p> Secondly, it is curious to find McGrath telling us not to worry about        Williams because he holds that the bishop is an authority to unify. This        claim ought by itself to alarm any Evangelical theologian. Certainly the        ecclesiology behind it is an ancient one, evident for example in the work        of Ignatius of Antioch. But the unity of the church inheres first and        foremost in Christ and in the Gospel which is believed. Where that unity        manifests itself, it does so with congregations as its primary focus,         not        bishops. Hence the visible church, as Article 19 puts it, is to be        defined principally as a congregation of faithful men, in which the pure        Word of God is preached, and the Sacraments be duly administered.       <\/p>\n<p> It is not even clear that McGrath himself thinks that Williams will         hold        the line on the issue of homosexuality. He judges that Williams will see        his role as raising uncomfortable questions, and keeping them open.         Hence, perhaps, his vote against the Lambeth resolution. Is this really        meant to comfort us? Surely this is bad enough by itself? Here is (in        New Testament terms) the most senior presbyter in the whole Anglican        church, and he will be busy raising uncomfortable questions about the        teaching of the Word of God. It is hard to find a passage where Paul        tells Timothy or Titus to appoint people who will be able and reliable         in        raising awkward questions about the teaching handed down to them, and         they        were only looking for local elders. Of course, there are plenty of        searching questions that an archbishop could rightly ask. But given his        own views on homosexual practice, McGrath can hardly think that the basic        questions of its morality and of what it means to be conformed to Christ,        questions which Williams has raised, fall within that category. Presuming        this, it is hard to see why he seems to be encouraged by the continuing        questioning that he anticipates.      <\/p>\n<p> McGrath&#8217;s right anticipation of ongoing debate shows why the headline         in        the same edition of the Church of England Newspaper, Archbishop Backs        Lambeth Resolution is misleading. Rowan Williams does not back the        resolution. He says that he will adhere to it while it is there, but that        is not the same as backing it himself. This is no encouraging statement,        since his letter to the primates also makes clear that he disagrees with        the resolution, and that he wants to keep the issue open for debate. In        other words, he disagrees and will seek to keep pressing for change. This        simply shows that he is politically astute in his opposition to the        resolution and is prepared to move slowly in working for a new consensus        which fits his private opinion, not that we should be encouraged because         he        supports it from the heart.       <\/p>\n<p> It would seem fair to expect that the higher you look in the church         the        more you would expect to find a man who stands firm in expounding and        defending Scripture. Yet bizarrely we are in precisely the opposite        situation. It is easily summed up. Even most conservative Evangelicals        in the Church of England seem to be happy to have as their archbishop         a man        they would not accept as their local vicar. Indeed, many of them would        move if he were appointed to the parish church. This is an extraordinary        situation. They may argue that he is not the Pope, but he remains the        most senior presbyter, and he is the most publicly noticed figure in the        church.       <\/p>\n<p> At the least then, it is like having him in charge of your parishs public        statements. We need to remember that the uncomfortable questions have        already been raised not behind closed doors but before the watching        non-Christian public. Even before Williams was appointed, non-Christians        were making comments on the gay issue like So all of that is OK now is         it?.        How can we possibly welcome such a witness? How can we not lament the        pastoral damage it may do to Christians who struggle with homosexual        temptation? Such questioning by itself is sufficiently damaging to the        churchs witness and its people to mean that the appointment of Williams         can        never be a positive thing.      <\/p>\n<p> It is also alarming to see McGrath apparently encouraged by the fact         that        Williams claims that his opinions are simply an interpretation of        Scripture. It is as if this means that we should take him more seriously,        simply because he claims to be interpreting rather than disagreeing with        the Bible. The problem with such a stance should be obvious from church        history. We need think only of the Socinian radicals of the sixteenth         and        seventeenth centuries. In their defining text, the Racovian Catechism        (first published in 1605), we find an impeccably orthodox doctrine of        Scripture. They affirm the total authenticity, sufficiency, and        perspicuity of the Bible in terms of which even a Reformed Scholastic         such        as John Owen could approve. Yet at the same time they deny the doctrine        of the Trinity, of the Incarnation, of the Atonement, and of justification        by faith alone. All this, they claim, is merely the right interpretation        of Scripture. Their example makes plain that saying I am merely        interpreting Scripture actually proves nothing at all if the interpretation        is ill-founded and unfaithful.       <\/p>\n<p> So when McGrath writes that Rowan&#8217;s views on this matter, however, do         not        result from an uncritical absorption of the views of Western culture,         but        rest on his reading of Scripture and especially his understanding of Gods        inclusiveness of homosexuals in the mission and fellowship of the church,        we may justly be suspicious. Doubtless this is what Williams himself        thinks, but in rejecting his interpretation as a misinterpretation we         find        that in fact his views cannot legitimately be derived from Scripture,         and        thus must in fact stem from elsewhere. Conversely, to give any kind of        credibility to his misinterpretation because it claims to be an        interpretation is to go a long way toward validating the hermeneutic which        Williams employs. I cannot think that McGrath would want to do that.      <\/p>\n<p> McGrath is also encouraged by these words which he quotes from Williams:                 At its best, the Catholic tradition can claim that it has sufficient joy        and gratitude and confidence in its understanding to know that it is not        going to be undermined or rubbished by other perspectives, but rather         be        enriched and illuminated by them. From this McGrath concludes that for        Williams Evangelicalism is thus something to be affirmed, rather than        perceived as a threat or an enemy, in that it offers a stimulus to        discerning the fullness or wholeness of the catholic faith. But let us        look again at the wording. The conceptualization is clear. At the        centre stands the Catholic tradition, and on the periphery we have other        things which can be drawn on for insight. Evangelicalism, the religion        which puts the Bible and the Cross at its centre, is thus a displaced        theology, one which stands at the edges to be used as a kind of supplement        for the spiritual diet. On the contrary, John Stott reminds us that the        substance of Evangelicalism is biblical, original, fundamental Christianity        [] the true faith of Christ, as He taught it to His apostles and especially        as He defended it against its opponents and detractors (Christ the        Controversialist, London, 1970, p. 8). We should not be encouraged to        find such apostolic Christianity sidelined.      <\/p>\n<p> The new archbishops marginalizing comments on Evangelicalism will be         no        surprise to anyone who has read one of the interviews given by him in        Australia (available at https:\/\/www.media.anglican.com.au). Asked about        the contribution of Reformed theology and Evangelicalism, Williams        commented that It is something that I think became very important to me         at        one or two points when I needed it as a kind of corrective to what can         be a        slightly precious and elitist anglo-catholicism. Sometimes you just need        to sing Blessed Assurance and hit a tambourine. You just need to know        that there is something profoundly simple about what an evangelical would        rightly call a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, and that nothing        substitutes for that. We may be glad that Williams sees a relationship        with Jesus as important, but does he really think that a comment on the        contribution of Reformed theology and Evangelicalism is best introduced         by        emphasising the occasional importance of bashing a tambourine, let alone        that such an action is rightly identified as an instantiation of the        reality of our personal relationship with Christ? Is this really the        extent of his appreciation for Evangelicalism or his understanding of         it?      <\/p>\n<p> There is no reason here to be encouraged. Some will reply that they         will        be delighted to have an Archbishop who asserts central credal doctrines.                 This delight in itself is alarming. We know that we are in a bad way when        we rejoice to hear a bishop affirm something which even the youngest        convert should believe, as if this were a novelty. Indeed, we should        despair that we are in a situation where a basic affirmation by one of         our        leaders has become encouraging. It is still less satisfactory that        Williams seems to down-play the importance of the bodily resurrection         of        Jesus, even though he holds to it himself. In his volume Resurrection        (London, 1982) he presents as competing alternatives an objective and         a        more subjective account of the event. He favours the former, but he        writes that, even in the midst of that discussion, he is not particularly        concerned with arguing for the objectivist view. He identifies the very        question What happened to Jesus? as part of the trouble with the modern        debate on the resurrection (p. 119). This rather laissez-faire attitude        in print twenty years ago lends credibility to more recent reports of        comments made by the archbishop in America and Uganda concerning the        permissibility of denying the bodily resurrection and the virgin birth        (available online in the Virtuosity archives for August). If this        evidence together represents the archbishops present thinking, then what         he        has said on these subjects may amount to little more than an advance        promise to fail to exercise doctrinal discipline.      <\/p>\n<p> It is very surprising that the Alister McGrath can feel positive about        this appointment for these reasons. I would urge him and other        Evangelicals to rethink as they consider their response to recent events.      <\/p>\n<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.latimertrust.org\/documents\/no_good_news.htm\" target=\"_blank\">https:\/\/www.latimertrust.org\/documents\/no_good_news.htm<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There is no reason here to be encouraged. Some will reply that they will be delighted to have an Archbishop who asserts central credal doctrines. This delight in itself is alarming by Garry Williams, Tutor in Church History and Doctrine, Oak Hill College, London Alister McGrath tells readers of the Church of England Newspaper (no. 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